Debate: Mr Locario VS Ablaze
Hashim Locario Smith (Mr Locario) took on Erik Carlberg (Ablaze) in a debate over direct game and indirect game, joined by Steve ‘The Dean’ Williams, Akeem Powell (Mr 1950) and Jordan Knope.
Mr Locario VS Ablaze
Ice White hosted a direct game VS indirect game debate between Hashim Locario Smith (Mr Locario), aided by Steve ‘The Dean’ Williams (The Man Mindset) and Akeem Powell (Mr 1950), and Erik Carlberg (Ablaze), aided by Jordan Knope.
The debate is the 8th in the series, following several monumental debates between notable figures in the pickup artist, social circle and red pill space:
- Markus Wolf VS Michael Sartain
- Hamza Hitch VS Michael Sartain
- Pearl Davis VS Ross Jeffries
- Ross Jeffries VS Mystery
- Ablaze VS Ross Jeffries
- Markus Wolf VS Ablaze
- Markus Wolf VS Mr Locario
The Case For Direct Game: Hashim Locario Smith (Mr Locario)
- Direct Game: It’s effective to take be direct with women, emphasizing honesty and clarity in intentions.
- Indirect Game Uses Deception: Indirect game approaches are potentially deceptive.
- Inner Game: Self-confidence and personal development are crucial for success in dating, rather than relying on external tactics.
- Authenticity: Social proof is bullshit, what matters is personal authenticity.
- Unstructured Methods: Frameworks like the Mystery Method are rigid and lack personal expression.
- Individualism: You don’t need female friends.
- Abundance Mindset: Recognizing the abundance of opportunities promotes confidence and reduces the fear of rejection.
The Case For Indirect Game: Erik Carlberg (Ablaze)
- Indirect Game: Subtlety and indirect approaches are more effective and appropriate in certain social contexts.
- Direct Game Burns Opportunities: Being too direct with women burns through a lot of opportunities with women.
- Outer Game: Being indirect with women gives a lot of adaptability.
- Social Proof: Perceived social status is powerful in attracting potential partners.
- Mystery Method: Using Mystery Method gives you the ability to navigate social interactions effectively.
- Social Circle Game: Building and leveraging social networks increase dating opportunities.
- Measured Progression: Gradual escalation of interactions allow comfort and trust to build over time, turning friendship into romance.
Who Won?
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