The King & Queen Relationship

Red pill figures as well as pickup artists have popularized the idea of a ‘semi-open relationship’ whereby the man has at least one girlfriend while dating other girls. This is called the king & queen relationship.

 

What Is The King & Queen Relationship?

The king & queen relationship is a semi-open relationship between one man and one woman; whereby the woman is completely loyal to the man, but the man may date and have sex with other women.

The king can do whatever he wants. And the queen is loyal to the king.

While the concept is nothing new, the term ‘king & queen relationship’ originates from the 2020 bestselling book The Message Game.

It is similar to the concept of polygyny. Although the king & queen relationship may differ slightly, polygyny often refers to one man with multiple wives, whereas a king & queen relationship often refers to one man with one girlfriend or wife, with other women on the side. Both are semi-open relationships.

In a polygyny relationship…

• The man has more than one wife
• All wives are loyal to the man
• The man can only have sex with his wives
• Marriage is required

In a king & queen relationship…

• The man has one main girlfriend or wife
• The girlfriend or wife is loyal to the man
• The man can have casual sex with any other woman
• Marriage is optional

The king & queen relationship is effectively a form of social polygyny, in that it doesn’t require marriage.

 

The Historical Reality Of The King & Queen Relationship

The king & queen relationship is something that has been practiced for thousands of years throughout history, particularly among Kings, Tsars, Emperors, Chiefs and Pharaohs.

Across cultures, there are several interesting commonalities…

• In many cases, the Queen managed the other women who were romantically involved with the King
• The King’s freedom to do whatever he wants directly tied to his ability to provide safety, resources and status
• In many cases, the Queen managed the other women who were romantically involved with the King
• The Queen’s status is never threatened or contested
• The Queen’s loyalty is always required for her royalty

 

King & Queen Relationships In Asia

Imperial China

In Imperial China, almost every Chinese dynasty involved this king & queen relationship exactly as described. There would only be one Empress (Queen) at a time, who was expected to be absolutely loyal, and the Emperor (King) would have access to hundreds or even thousands of concubines.

Emperor Ruizong and Empress Sumin are a key example of a king & queen relationship in Imperial China.

Ottoman Empire

In the Ottoman Empire (Turkey), the Haseki Sultan (Queen) would have absolute loyalty to the Sultan (King), while the Sultan would have a harem of other women. In this case, the women in the harem were strictly forbidden from having any other male contact.

Sultan Suleiman and Hürrem Sultan are a key example of a king & queen relationship in the Ottoman Empire. Suleiman’s harem contained hundreds of women.

Japan

In feudal Japan, the Daimyō (King) would have several concubines, and the Seishitsu (Queen) would be loyal to the Daimyō.

Daimyō Oda Nobunaga and Nōhime are a key example of a king & queen relationship in feudal Japan. Historical records suggest that Nōhime was barren, and so Oda Nobunaga had children with other women such as Kitsuno.

 

King & Queen Relationships In Africa

Ancient Egypt

Ancient Egypt followed a similar structure, with the Pharaoh (King) having a Great Royal Wife (Hemet Nesut Weret; Queen) and many ‘lesser wives’ and concubines.

Pharaoh Ramses II and Queen Nefertari are a key example of a king & queen relationship in Egypt. Ramses II had over 100 children and over 200 wives.

Asante Empire

In the Asante Empire (Ghana), the Asantehene (King) would take many wives from different tribes in order to maintain political unity. A slight difference is that the Asante Empire didn’t quite have a Queen title in the spousal sense, but an Asantehemaa (Queen Mother) where status and power was concerned.

Asantehene Osei Tutu I is a key example of a king that had a king & queen relationship in the Asante Empire, despite the effective queen status functioning differently.

 

King & Queen Relationships In Europe

France

In France, the King would have a Queen Consort who would have been legally and socially required to be monogamous. Whereas the King would have an official mistress (Maîtresse-en-titre). Mistresses would often have their own apartments, recognition and political influence.

King Louis XIV and Queen María Teresa of Spain are a key example of a king & queen relationship in France. Madame de Montespan was a notable mistress of Louis XIV.

Russian Empire

In the Russian Empire, the Tsar (King) often had mistresses, while the Tsarina (Queen) was expected to give absolute loyalty to the Tsar.

Tsar Nikolaj I and Tsarina Aleksandra Fyodorovna (Charlotte of Prussia) are a key example of a king & queen relationship in the Russian Empire. Varvara Nelidova was one of the mistresses of Nikolaj I.

Nikolaj I’s great-grandson, Nikolaj II, was the last Tsar of Russia, having struggled to produce a healthy male heir and then overthrown during the Russian Revolution. While Nikolaj I held a very strong king & queen relationship, great-grandson Nikolaj II faced a weakened image when Grigorij Rasputin was rumored to have seduced the Tsarina. This underlines the necessity of loyalty from a queen. For without the queen’s loyalty, the empire can collapse.

 

King & Queen Relationships In America

Comanche Nation

In the Southern Plains of North America, the Chief (King) would take several wives, and the first wife (Queen) would be loyal and often have the final say on whether he could take another wife. The other wives were often younger sisters of the first wife, which ensured the first wife kept the loyalty and support of the family within the marriage. This is known as sororal polygyny.

Chief Quanah Parker and Weckeah are a key example of a king & queen relationship in the Comanche Nation. Quanah Parker had a total of 7 wives.

Inca Empire

In the Inca Empire (Peru), the Sapa Inca (King) had hundreds of secondary wives and concubines known as aclla. The Coya (Queen) was the primary wife of the Sapa Inca, and would be absolutely loyal.

Sapa Inca Pachacuti and Coya Mama Anahuarque are a key example of a king & queen relationship in the Inca Empire.

 

Are Women Actually Open To A King & Queen Relationship?

You don’t have to be royalty to get some loyalty. But you do need abundance to have multiple women. But in a funny way… The abundance is the royalty.

Loyal is the queen, royal is the scene.

One time, a girl I matched with on Tinder specifically asked me if I’m ‘polygamous’ shortly after I got her phone number. After already establishing 2 separate king & queen relationships by then, I had a better understanding of it and decided to tell her about it. Just ignore the constant sarcasm in between.

This isn’t to say that this particular woman approved or rejected the idea. But she did effectively bring up the topic and rationalized it into her own words…

‘The king does what he wants and the queen is loyal.’

For clarification purposes, at this point she had not met me. And she didn’t become my girlfriend. But she did become a sexual partner that I had sex with on multiple occasions, until I dropped her from my rotation for kissing too aggressively.

Seriously, my mouth hurt. She needed to calm down.

 

My First King & Queen Relationship

Personally, I have had two separate times when I had a king & queen relationship of my own.

In the first half of 2018, I had one main girlfriend (Queen) who I met through work. By the time we started dating, we had already been connected on Facebook. So she could see that I was actively posting almost every photo I took, which included photos with other girls I was going on dates with.

This set the expectation early on from her point of view; that I spend time with several women regularly. When we did start dating, she said to me something along the lines of…

‘I know you are dating other women, and I’m okay with that. But eventually I might want you all to myself.’

Here are some examples of how I would time casual dating around my king & queen relationship. Note that the dates and photos are in reverse chronological order.

Example 1

From my Google Photos timeline above, you can see that I was hanging out with my girlfriend on Monday and have another girl in my bed on Wednesday.

What the photos don’t show is that the other girl came over on Tuesday afternoon.

Example 2

From the Google Photos timeline above, I saw a girl on Friday night until Saturday morning, and then went to my girlfriend’s place on Saturday afternoon.

Then on Tuesday, the other girl was cooking in my house.

Ignore the absurdly over-ambitious portion of chicken and fries. Yes, I ordered that just for me.

 

My Second King & Queen Relationship

The second girlfriend I had a king & queen relationship with was with my most recent ex-girlfriend. We originally matched on Tinder.

In her particular case, she preferred not to discuss other women. However, she did have a fantasy of having sex with another woman. So that helped.

Here are some examples of dating numerous women in addition to spending time with my girlfriend. Note that the dates and photos are in reverse chronological order.

Example 3

From the timeline above, I went on dates with at least 2 other women. And yes, that is Deadmau5, the famous Canadian DJ.

No photos were taken of the sex. But I did find that popcorn interesting… Until she tripped over nothing in the movie theater and spilled it all over me.

Example 4

From the timeline above, I am with 6 different women. Two are somewhere behind the camera, not clearly shown.

The reason I show this is because this is literally what I would post (Minus the more private stuff) on Facebook at the end of each day. And women would be able to see precisely what I was up to (Again, minus the more private stuff) on a regular basis.

There are several days in a row where I’m spending time with at least one woman, as well as overlapping days (19 October and 27 October) where I am spending time with my girlfriend and another woman hours earlier or hours later.

Example 5

From the timeline above, I am spending time with at least 11 different women. Some were at a BBQ at my house. Some were individual dates. 5 I had at my place (And in my bed) individually from individual dates.

I had to blur out the titties from my POV video in the bedroom. But you can still see some spanking.

There was also some social circle game at work, such as me being on the stage at a nightclub on one of my dates.

 

How To Set Up A King & Queen Relationship

Women are more open to a semi-open relationship than you think. Many women will do it for the right man, often with more status or social proof than others.

There are several things you should know in order to be able to set up a king & queen relationship…

• Priority: Always ensure the queen feels that she comes first, and treat her accordingly so that she is above the other women
• Comfort: Be able to reassure the queen that she is irreplaceable
• Wife Material: The queen should be wife material and loyal
• Social Proof: It helps to already display a lifestyle involving numerous women on social media (Facebook & Instagram)
• Frame Control: Framing her as the queen reminds her of her importance, as she is the main woman
• Communication: Strong and positive communication is absolutely necessary

It helped that I was already going on dates and spending time with women on a weekly basis. I was posting photos of my time with women on Facebook and Instagram through posts and stories. It became expected that I would be with other girls before anyone even talked about it.

And that’s all there is to it… Expectations. It just needs to be communicated accordingly with honesty and positivity. The part that women get on board with the most is the part where you express that as the queen; she is the most important. She is the main woman in your life, and she cannot be replaced. And as the queen, she comes first. But you genuinely do have to put her first when it comes down to dating multiple women.

Relationships, monogamous or not, always come with challenges. Like any relationship, it won’t be perfect and won’t necessarily be a smooth ride. But you have the power to communicate and frame the relationship positively.

 

Good Activities With Your Queen

Since one of my girlfriends was a L’Oréal model, she helped coordinate a home photoshoot with two of my female friends in Canada. One of the girls came up with the idea because I would always be taking photos of things in general with my Google Pixel. Being a spontaneous photographer for women socially, even if you’re not a professional photographer, is a great position to be in.

However, in general, I prefer to keep my main girlfriends separate from other women in most instances.

If you were to put your queen with other women, here are some date ideas where you can easily involve multiple women…

• Photoshoots (Many locations and themes to choose from)
• Nightclubs (You can host a ‘girls night’ but be the male leader or have an outfit theme)
• Parties
• BBQs
• Dinners
• Beach Trips
• Picnics

One time, I planned a girls night where the girls would come dressed as angels. The group chat was called Ice’s Angels. On another girls night, we had a group chat called Icey’s Wifeys.

 

Notable People Who Had A King & Queen Relationship

Manosphere

• Andrew Tate
• Michael Sartain
• Justin Waller
• Ice White
• Owen Cook
• Dan Bilzerian
• Amrou Fudl (Myron Gaines)

Business

• Hugh Hefner
• Warren Buffet
• Aristotle Onassis

Politics

• Julius Caesar
• Mao Zedong
• David Lloyd George
• Franklin D Roosevelt
• John F Kennedy
• Lyndon B Johnson
• Leonid Brezhnev

Art & Writing

• HG Wells
• Pablo Picasso
• George Bernard Shaw

Film

• Federico Fellini
• Charlie Chaplin
• Marlon Brando
• Jack Nicholson

Music

• Frank Sinatra
• Elvis Presley
• Gene Simmons
• Mick Jagger
• Ozzy Osbourne

Disclaimer: Obviously we do not know everything about everyone’s relationships. And some figures listed here may not have necessarily started their relationship with the right expectations.

 

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